the system is not broken, it was made this way

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This comment from a post on family separation last year at change.org sums up the U.S. immigration system better than any analysis I've seen in a while.  The most insightful point: the system isn't broken, it works just as it was designed.  The Immigration and Nationality Act wasn't just randomly slapped together in a couple of weeks.  These laws were discussed and debated over many years and voted on by U.S. politicians who claimed to have the support of their constituents. 

I am the son and grandson of American citizens I have been an illegal alien for 19 years so far, originally applied through a fake 'American' lawyer who charged a hefty fee,  a few years later it put me into an overstay status because he never filed, I have now spent 17 years applying I have started going through the approval patch affidavits etc but basically been told once they have everything I am subject to a 10 year ban at the end of all this even though I am a retired investor and never worked one day for an American while here...

The problem with immigration is that the processing time frames are inhumane and so long people get old or die waiting and the hoops you need to jump through get smaller and smaller also the fact that you are never given one long list of items needed its always one thing out of dozens sent to you at a time its the carrot in front of the donkey syndrome, this is why many do not bother applying..

You watch the processing time frame speed up if immigration could only collect a fee once they were ready to process a fully eligible application and hand over a green card.

The whole system is a racket to extract fees then find every possible way to draw it out, make it extremely difficult, separte families develop deathly time frames and to find any possible angle to deny no matter how petty.

And what is the point in a ten year ban if you are going to let the applicant apply at the end? Let me answer that one to... The point is by the time 10 years go by the spouse has either died moved on with someone else or given up, if none of those have happened yet then hell let the immigrant pay more fees and apply from where he is that will notch up another 10 year wait for processing adding up to around 20 years since the beginning of the ban surely that will kill of or separate permanently 90% well if anyone is still kicking around after that suck up the fees and look for a loop hole to deny or why not just deny anyway and make a few more loopholes that should reduce whats left to about 1%..

Lets face the fact having discussions on immigration bans and family separation is really pointless, the problems are there because that is how the system is designed its not broken its a perfect money making racket that takes fees and money and does not need to provide a service its a bit like running a bar where people pay in advance for a drink but you make it almost impossible to get in the door or you just plain bar them from coming in for such a long time that they end up walking of after paying in advance.

And don't forget folks sure anybody can apply, sorry what was that sorry we cannot tell you if you are elligible or not you just need to pay the fees wait 10+ years we will let you know at the end.... Meanwhile in the INS tea room laughter and sure anyone can apply NO F-ING REFUNDS!!

Posted by Stuck InTime on 02/03/2010 @ 04:09AM PT




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Good comment.

There is, I believe, a species of 'criminality' that has its twin in corruption, in that it is the only way to achieve a specific outcome due to structural impasses in public institutions.

As a corollary, I have been studying the bureaucracy of New Spain, and as it became more and more pervasive, corruption became endemic as the only thing capable of making the system respond.

In that respect, the outcome of people making the decision to forego the immigration process should be... yes, a revision of the immigration process to make it attractive. It should not be... the cue to revise enforcement, crank up punishment for non-compliance, etc. This is usually the right's 'solution' to make either path a path to punishment while howling that 'the law is the law'.

Alonzo said:

That's funny. We managed to navigate the system for my mother-in-law without major issues. As to the fees, the immigration bureaucracy is meant to be self-supporting pay as you go, as it should be. I fail to see why prospective immigrants should expect to be subsidized by the taxpaying citizens. After all, why should candidates be a burden on the country before they are even granted citizenship?

Wasn't John F Kennedy who said - "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."? I fail to see why a prospective immigrant would complain about the relatively small expense for such a huge benefit, citizenship. If you don't want to make the sacrifice, don't pay the fee. Just stay a foreigner and go home.

Bob said:

I think Alonzo and Jason need to re-read for what it says not for their interpretation, I am sure the Mother in Law was not following the same situation as the poster and as Alonzo said she is a Mother in Law and probably not an overstay either. (take your head out of the sand not everything is sugar and cream and lovely)

And Jason no one states anywhere they do not want to pay a fee, pay a fee get a timely honest response without the punishments of loss of time and life it is all ready hard enough being separated from family with out the need for cruel 10 year time outs.

People get old you lose quality time with family how about someone picking up your son or daughter mother or father and saying say goodbye you can see her in around 15-20 years from now 10 year ban for being naughty and overstaying a visa and 5-10 years to reapply outside and you can bet that is going to be hard because of the overstay record previously. Drug dealers get less time outs.

Americans love to preach get out but I am sure they would explode if their son or daughter was separated from them.

Alonzo said:

A sister and a brother still live in my former homeland. We communicate via video phone several times a week and I travel there every year. My sister lives in Chicago. I call her every week on Skype. I have no desire to move next door to her. She has her life and I have mine. If I'm lucky I may drive the 500-miles to visit her once every two years. Another brother lives in Boston. I'm lucky I get to see him once every two years. The point is that even though most of my family lives in the U.S., I get to go to visit Mexico more often than I can drive to places in the U.S. I find the argument for family reunion as an imperative for immigration reform to be specious. If you're legal, you don't have to sneak around worry about being picked up by ICE, and modern communications can keep families in contact and closer together.

Even if every family member of every immigrant were to come to the U.S., it is unlikely that they'll all be able to live near each other in this economy. Americans who don't want to live on the dole need to be willing to travel afar and in many cases away from sisters, cousins and parents to remain employed, as I have done. That is one reason I do not buy the idea that family unification is justification for chain migration.

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